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Alpha-1 Forge concept art.[1]

Crafting and gathering is a very important component of the economy that players will have direct control over. Whether you wish to build a sprawling plantation around your house, or wish to travel the vast wilderness in search of treasure and resources. There are many tools available to the crafters of our world. Regardless of how you gather your resources, we believe that every item that exists in the world should in some way reflect its creator. As such, there will be extreme versatility in our crafting system – giving crafters the ability to create unique items that represent their strengths and weaknesses.[2]

Elaboración is one of the artisan classes in Ashes of Creation. It is a driving force for the game economy.[3]

It's unlikely that organized parties will be able to get all of the materials they need to craft every piece of equipment from farming open world dungeons alone.[12]Cody Peterson
Anything that you want to bring into existence in the world is going to be built by players: Whether that is Naves, Siege engines, Armas, Armadura, etc.[13]Jeffrey Bard

There will not be a labor or energy system in Ashes of Creation.[14]

There is no labor or energy system in Ashes. However, that's not to say that crafting will not be difficult. Crafting is very difficult; but it is because it is difficult that it will be very rewarding as well.[14]Steven Sharif

Crafting professions

Crafting mechanics

First look at the work-in-progress Alpha-2 crafting UI by Colby Marchi.[16]

This one is showing the base needs that we were establishing to get this system in-game and usable as soon as possible. So right now, our crafting does work in game and it's all functional and we're building out the functionality as we go to expand; and based on what we test.[16]Colby Marchi

The developers will be seeking testing feedback on the addition of a gameplay layer to crafting that determines the outcome based on the player's performance.[11]

For example, if you're creating a sword, and you are crafting that sword, you will have an interface- a gameplay layer that you will see and you will begin to hammer actually that sword into an appropriate outline. And your performance there can help influence the outcome of that craft.[11]Steven Sharif
Without getting into too much detail I will say that it's likely that you will see some inspiration surface itself in that regard.[17]Steven Sharif
  • Previously it was stated that repetitive skill-based crafting mechanics, such as mini-games, are not an intended part of the crafting experience.[17][18]
We did discuss that type of a feature where the skill of the crafter would grant a greater window of skill-based type crafting. So the higher master level you have of crafting a certain item, the greater your potential to impact the quality of that item might be... The concern obviously that we have when going into developing this type of system is that we don't want what is a fun - you know for lack of a better term - mini-game to be something that becomes repetitive and kind of makes it monotonous... If when we start to flesh out the crafting system and we take a look at that interaction of melding crafting, the actual activity of making something, there is room in the design sheet for different iterations of that particular action; and we may see something come about that can be skill oriented, but that's something that's going to require a lot of testing and different iterations from a design standpoint.[18]Steven Sharif
  • Players are able to specialize in focused crafting branches.[19]

Crafting stations

Crafting stations (also referred to as Crafting benches or Workbenches) are located on freeholds or within nodes.[5][6]

Q: Can crafting stations be mobilized / moved and can they be placed anywhere in the world?
A: It depends on the crafting station. There are going to be different tiers of crafting stations that represent the quality of item you're looking to create within that specific profession. There's going to be crafting stations that can be utilized by players within their freeholds and then crafting stations that are resigned only to the development of particular nodes, within particular areas, or particular buildings... There's a wide variety of those things to make it a more dynamic experience and something that caveat how players decide to build the world and what the value of those things are.[5]Steven Sharif


Imposing Plate Belt recipe Alpha-1 captura de pantalla. Credito de imagen: Guild:Overlord

Elaboración in Ashes of Creation is recipe (blueprint, schematic) based, not RNG based.[23][24]

  • There will definitely be rare recipes.[25]
  • Recipes that are obtained must be committed to a player's recipe book prior to that recipe being able to be used for crafting. This "consumes" the recipe.[26]
    • Recipes can be traded or sold prior to them being committed into a player's recipe book.[26]
  • Within a crafting recipe, there are dials (based on artisan specialization) that are used to customize crafted items, such as:[27]
    • Increasing one stat at the expense of another.[28]
    • Making an item more magical versus more physical.[28]

I think Star Wars Galaxies had a great crafting system... The resource gathering and the crafting system altogether as a whole really was I think way beyond its time. That's kind of the direction we want to go, where there's choices to be made in the crafting system and those choices change what you end up with... It's not just about doing X recipe to get Y item. You know, there's actually thought involved in it and there is you know a market to be captured based on those decisions.[29]Jeffrey Bard

The ability for players to create original recipes will not be present in the game at launch, but may be included at some point in the future.[25]

  • Crafting does not have mixing and matching (of arbitrary materials) in the manner of animal husbandry.[30]

Obtaining recipes

There are many different ways to achieve recipes. We want to take crafting and house the location of those recipes throughout different progression paths, so that not everything is pigeon-holed into one way forward.[31]Steven Sharif

Recipes are discovered in the world.[25][32]

We're definitely going to have rare recipes. We're going to have a very active recipe market that how players find them and how they discover them is going to be very diverse. It's not just going to be drop oriented. It's going to be discovery, adventurism, treasures, repetition of a particular activity that might yield something, deconstruction that might learn how to create a recipe. There's a lot of different functionality that's present that's going to be utilized.[25]Steven Sharif

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A royalty system where players can license recipes to other players for a certain amount of time and collect royalties was discussed as a possibility.[32]

Crafting materials

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Materials (also known as processed goods and crafting materials) are obtained in the following ways:

The quality of crafting materials will influence the quality of the crafted item.[36]

Players drop materials and other items upon death, based on their applicable death penalties.[37][38][39][40]

High-level materials

Materials for crafting high-level items are obtained from world bosses and through the deconstruction of other high-level items.[34]

Many end level items with crafting will require mats from world bosses etc. we want those systems intertwined. However. There may be opportunities to deconstruct high level items and replace those needed materials as well. We will be testing the crafting trees in alpha and beta.[34]Steven Sharif

Crafted items

Elaboración UI. Alpha-1 captura de pantalla. Credito de imagen: Guild:Overlord

Crafted items (Crafted gear) is best-in-slot gear in Ashes of Creation.[41]

Crafted gear in the game is the best gear... One thing that I'm not a fan of is that you develop a crafting system in a game and you've spent a lot of time making this from a material and resource perspective. All the tables that you can receive, all the connectivity in the economy and how crafting is associated with the game; and then you undermine the crafting entirely by presenting a separate route of gear acquisition that is on-par with the crafting efforts. So here you have these people who are acquiring all of the resources getting, all the recipes, leveling up their professions and then everything they make is less or equal to anything you could just have chosen the easier path of and gone down the questing and received the best gear. So what we do focus on is that crafters make the best shit. Excuse me, the best things.[41]Steven Sharif

Crafters will be able to assign different skills/abilities and stats on gear.[45][46]

That plays into our crafting system in and of itself. The idea is for those stats to be variables that can be kind of dictated based on the mastery level of the particular crafter; and the higher they become a master of those professions, whether it be for armor or for weapons or for accessories, they're going to have some agency and put their mark on essentially what items they're introducing into the economy.[48]Steven Sharif

Crafters are able to influence what their crafted items will look like.[45][49]

We believe that every item that exists in the world should in some way reflect its creator. As such, there will be extreme versatility in our crafting system – giving crafters the ability to create unique items that represent their strengths and weaknesses.[2]

Habilidades y estadísticas en el equipo

Los artesanos (crafters) podrán asignar distintas habilidades y estadísticas el equipo.[45][46]

Crafters will be able to 'rejigger' stat blocks; and there will be a couple of other ways to move things around to create both the look and the stat block that you're looking for. It's not always going to be easy. There will be a lot of challenges involved with that. But the goal is to give you guys the option to customize your gear the way you want them to be.[45]Jeffrey Bard

Not all armor sets will be the cookie cutter kind of set. They will have the influences from the crafter available in it, if it's a crafted set.[46]Steven Sharif

El equipo se divide en estadísticas básicas y estadísticas adicionales..[53]

Item creation suite

An "item creation suite" that allows crafters to create unique appearances for items has been discussed as a future possibility.[54]

Artisan mastery

Dentro de cada una de las tres vías de artesanía (Recolección, procesado y Elaboración) hay diferentes profesiones. Un personaje sólo puede dominar una de estas dos vías principales y hasta dos (2) profesiones dentro de esta clase de artesanía (sujeto a pruebas).[55][56][57][58]

When it comes to complete mastery, we're really identifying around two or three right now, but that's something that gets play tested- something gets iterated upon.[56]Steven Sharif
  • Un personaje podrá alcanzar una competencia de nivel 3 o 4 en las profesiones que no domine.[56][59]Steven Sharif
Players will have the opportunity to dabble in all of the professions at a very beginners level and then you know that gives them an understanding of what that profession feels like and then allows them to pinpoint the direction that they want to go in to master particular professions.[59]Steven Sharif
  • En función de las pruebas, se puede decidir limitar los certificados de dominio de una profesión a un valor máximo.[60][61]
Becoming a master Crafter or a master Processor or a master Gatherer should be a significant time investment and resource investment; and because of that it should also be something that when you achieve that status it's like people on the server know who you are.[62]Steven Sharif
  • El dominio de estas profesiones no se limita a fabricar un objeto. Conceden muchas cosas como titulos, acceso a objetos, rebajas y misiones. [63]
  • Previamente se decía que, con un esfuerzo considerable, un jugador podía dominar todas las profesiones dentro de una clase de artesanía. [64][65] Esto se cambió más tarde para que un jugador pudiera dominar algunas, pero no todas las profesiones dentro de esta clase de artesanía.[66][67] Esto se cambió para poder dominar hasta dos o tres profesiones dentro de una clase de artesanía que se domine (sujeto a pruebas).[56] La postura actual es poder dominar hasta dos profesiones.[55]

La progresión de artesanías dentro del árbol de habilidades, se basa en la experiencia (repetición de tareas) dentro de una rama, así como de la realización de ciertos hitos dentro de cada rama.[68]

  • Elegir una de estas vías específicas dentro del árbol de habilidades, da al jugador la oportunidad de especializarse en un área determinada. Esto fomenta la inter-dependencia del jugador, mejorando la experencia en la artesanía.[19]
When we reference not being masters of all that doesn't mean you're not a master within your own one of the three artisan types, which is you know crafter or gatherer, processor. You will be a master of one of those, you will not be master of the other two.[57]Steven Sharif

Race or class locked crafting

Elaboración will not be race or class locked.[69]

Artisan gear

Artisan gear will boost artisans in their gathering, processing, or crafting professions.[8][9]

  • Artisan gear may be able to be equipped in an "undergarment" slot that can be toggled between adventuring gear and artisan gear.[8]
  • The developers are planning to have artisan gear sets available for Alpha-2.[8]
Gear for artisans are going to live alongside your adventuring gear. So you will currently- the approaches, and we'll test this but currently- the approach is you'll have artisanship oriented gear. This might be beneficial for your gathering; it might be beneficial for your processing, or crafting, or whatever it is- your profession. Essentially you will craft that gear, you will equip that gear, it'll live almost as a undergarment slot so to speak; and then you can activate that and it will show the appearance if you wish during the activation when you gain the benefit from the from the gear itself; and then could disappear afterwards and go back to your adventuring gear. That's the current approach. We're going to play with that a little bit. There's some discussion and disagreement on the team about how we do that, but our hopes are for Alpha two, we will have I think a couple of sets at least. We're demonstrating all of the artisanship from gathering to processing to crafting in limited fashion in Alpha 2 want to have that gear present to kind of play with this approach.[8]

Cadena de suministros artesanales

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Los artesanos dentro Ashes of Creation deben elegir una rama en su arbol de habilidades artesanalas. Esta dependencia entre ramas establece una cadena de suministros desde las materias primas hasta el producto finalizado.[70][28] Cada etapa de la cadena puede requerir el uso de caravanas para transportar mercancias de un artesano a otro.[19]

  1. Obtención de las materias primas:[71]
  2. Refinando las materias primas con la profesión de procesamiento.[28]
  3. La profesión de elaboración termina el producto usando las recetas de elaboración.[28]

As a crafter you're going to want to know where certain recipes can be fulfilled; which nodes have the capability of creating what you've processed material that you've gathered for; and then you're going to want to plan out your route to either transit the goods there or make sure that you're situated in the area so that you can go out collect and build in that area as well. So there's a lot of planning that's going to be necessary.[73]Steven Sharif


Recolección lumber in Alpha-2.[74]

The first major reveal is that in Ashes of Creation we have now expanded the resource gathering system to include a great many of what the world is showing you of these resources. So when you see a tree, you can chop a tree. If you see a rock, you can mine a rock.[74]Steven Sharif

Recolección ore in Alpha-2.[75]

Looking at this this rock here, I don't know what that rock is before I actually complete the Harvest. But after I complete the Harvest I see that I collected basalt in the bottom right hand corner.[76]Steven Sharif

Recolección is one of the artisan classes in Ashes of Creation.[77][78]

  • Many of the visible resources (such as Trees and Ore) in the open world are gatherable.[74]
    • This is a change from Alpha-1 where a limited number of resource locations were highlighted with "sparkles" to indicate they were gatherable.[74][79][77]
  • The exact type of resource present within a resource node is not known until the node is harvested.[76]
There's a bunch of different things in Ashes that will be gatherable. We have plants and trees and rocks and fish and animals and creatures that can be tamed; and we're thinking to reach the visual fidelity bar and to have things a little bit more rooted in what we know is that it wouldn't really make sense for you to just see gold all over the world in the same way that you would plants and trees; so we wanted to get feedback on what players think about some of the different gatherable types having different things that you would have to know and expect from them. So rocks are a good example of this, where you can see a rock but until you crack that thing open you don't know if it's full of stone, crystals, rubies, gold. So we wanted to try that out with some of our gatherables to have players have to open this thing up- and that's not to say that we players won't stumble on a nice load, or vein, or geode of gold, but most of the stuff that they would they would find to the world, unless they they look hard enough, would require them to crack that stone open.[76]Kory Rice
Certain low level gatherables will have a tiered progression into higher level crafting. So for example you know if I'm gathering... leaves of the blue petal flower to craft a pigment that's going to be used in the development of a tunic that I can wear at level one, then I may need to collect those in order to craft the pigments to craft a greater pigment that might be present in the in the crafting of a higher level item. So it's going to be kind of a tiered progression so that materials have relevancy throughout the different levels of of crafting; and that's important from an economic stability standpoint. You need to have layered demand from a supply standpoint so that players who are interested in collecting and gathering those materials still are relevant when the later level items are crafted.[83]Steven Sharif


Horno that can be placed on a freehold.[33]

Procesamiento is one of the artisan classes in Ashes of Creation.[33]

That's going to be very important as you get to very late game processed materials that are required. Because some of these things might have days to process within a station, but if you have spent the time and done the work to advance that processing station you could cut that down considerably, perhaps even greater than 50 percent; and that's going to have a significant impact on your ability to either control markets or to create goods.[10]Steven Sharif
  • There will be a preparatory phase to provide the building with needed fuel or other materials to process the required grade of materials.[86]
Processing as it stands for Alpha-2's implementation is that there is a certain amount of prep work that's required first for the industry-specific component, which is the building. That prep work might be finding a certain amount of lumber to light the fire in kiln or whatever, to a certain temperature in order for you to process a certain grade of ore; and that grade of ore being malleable then into an ingot; and that produces that ingot so-to-speak. Now, in that process there's a gathering component, there's a preparatory phase, there is a time-related component.[86]Steven Sharif
  • There will also be time-related and gameplay elements that require the player to interact with the processing building. These elements act to throttle for the introduction of processed materials from raw gatherables into the economy.[86]
There's also possibilities that the machine you're using itself has some type of gameplay layer- should the kiln get overheated, and you have to throw some water on it or something. There are elements there in that process that we want to mimic this gameplay opportunity for players to interact; and not just be a time-sink. But time-sink is also a component of it as well, because that's the throttle for the introduction of processed materials from raw gatherables into the economy.[86]Steven Sharif

Upgrading items

Enchanting is not an artisan profession in its own right. Escribas create scrolls that can be utilized by different professions to create enchantments relating to that profession.[87][88]

You don't really push a particular item's level requirement or the identity of that item. You can enhance it, you can add enchantments to it, but it's still the item it is.[90]Steven Sharif

Repairing items

Blacksmithing concept art.[92]

For example: if you have an iron sword and then the sword gets damaged from use, you have to use more iron to repair it; and what that does is... make sure that there's significant sinks in the game for base materials so that you are creating a scarcity and demand that's present on the creation of higher goods as well as supplying the necessary decay components for the world.[93]Steven Sharif

Item repair will cost crafting materials.[94][93][95]

There will be ways to repair destructible structures (such as walls and gates) and also repair (or re-craft) siege weapons that were damaged during sieges.[101]

  • This is a long term design goal that was not present during Alpha-1.[101]
There's a lot of ancillary activities that can be had during sieges... It's obviously strategy and tactics and you know raid-versus-raid components, but also you want to have individual contributions where players can do things during the siege to aid in the greater effort so to speak; and it doesn't require you having 50 people by your side to effectuate that influence over something. So repairs are great ways to do that. Repairs for walls, repairs for gates, being able to spawn and essentially craft the designs for specific types of siege weapons to provide those to the team.[101]Steven Sharif

Escrow system

info-orange.pngParte de la siguiente información no ha sido confirmada recientemente por los desarrolladores y es posible que no esté en la hoja de ruta de desarrollo actual.

An escrow system is planned to prevent griefing in the crafting system.[102]

We're going to have a UI... you're gonna put the resources in or they're gonna put the resources in. It'll be like an escrow system and then once [the job] is complete you'll get the item they'll get the money.[102]

Componentes de caravana

Las caravanas se construyen a partir de componentes en un edificio de puestos de caravanas dentro del nodo. Si faltan componentes, las versiones predeterminadas con los valores de estadísticas más bajos se apricarán a la caravana.[103][104][105]

Los componentes de caravanas obtenidos por medio de constructores tienen estadísticas acorde a la habilidad de cada artesano.[103][105][103]

Ship building

Naval concept art.[108]

Ships are going to also have classes. Those classes are going to dictate the type of of attachments that can be applied and in what quantity. A military vessel type may have more capacity for weapon based attachments. A transport ship might have more capacity for defensive based attachments. And then you'll have more versatile ships that can share across those types. So in that sense you are constructing a componentized ship for the types of activities you intend to do: Are you a raider? Are you a mover of goods? Are you an adventurer? These types of things are going to inform your decision of what the attachments you're going to have in those three categories.[109]Steven Sharif

Ship building can be carried out by any player in possession of the right components, recipes, and an advanced enough node with a harbor.[110][111]

Ships are built in adherence to a recipe. That recipe requires components. Those components adhere to different crafting professions that require a player to intersect and/or craft or purchase those components from the different professions and then once they have those accumulated they can do the construction process through the recipe system at a harbor.[110]
There are absolutely attachments that can apply to the ship and some of those are decorative in nature. There are also slots that have utility aspects to them as well but are also decorative.[120]Steven Sharif
  • Ships will likely not have closed spaces or internal compartments such as Captain's quarters.[121]
We are trying to stay away from internal compartments within the ships because that presents a whole different type of user interface and flow that can be a bit cumbersome and problematic, especially in combat and in closed spaces. So we're trying to stay away from that under deck aspect and keep things all on deck for better readability on the player side.[122]Steven Sharif


Las clases de artesanía (Recolección, Procesamiento, Elaboración) estarán disponible en su totalidad durante el Alpha-2 y las Betas.[123][124]

Crafting honestly will not come online in any sense of its true form until Alpha-2. Alpha-1 has essentially what are intended to be the core gameplay loop of crafting, meaning the collection of materials, the translation of those materials into processed goods, and the use of those processed goods into item acquisition. That's the core gameplay loop that is currently present in Alpha-1. But those are mostly facilitated kind of piggy backing the merchant systems right now and not actually using the real crafting system; and that's because crafting hasn't been completed in a form that can be implemented in Alpha-1, but will be for Alpha-2. What's present in Alpha-1 doesn't even really scratch the surface for crafting.[124]Steven Sharif


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