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Recolección lumber in Alpha-2.[1]

The first major reveal is that in Ashes of Creation we have now expanded the resource gathering system to include a great many of what the world is showing you of these resources. So when you see a tree, you can chop a tree. If you see a rock, you can mine a rock.[1]Steven Sharif

Recolección ore in Alpha-2.[2]

Looking at this this rock here, I don't know what that rock is before I actually complete the Harvest. But after I complete the Harvest I see that I collected basalt in the bottom right hand corner.[3]Steven Sharif

Recolección es una de las clases artesanales en Ashes of Creation.[4][5]

  • Muchos de los recursos visibles (como árboles o minerales) en el mundo abierto son recolectables.[1]
    • Esto supone un cambio respecto a la Alpha-1, donde un número limitado de recursos se resaltaban con "destellos" para indicar que eran recolectables.[1][6][4]
  • El tipo exacto de recurso presente en un determinado nodo no se conoce hasta que el recurso es recolectado.[3]
There's a bunch of different things in Ashes that will be gatherable. We have plants and trees and rocks and fish and animals and creatures that can be tamed; and we're thinking to reach the visual fidelity bar and to have things a little bit more rooted in what we know is that it wouldn't really make sense for you to just see gold all over the world in the same way that you would plants and trees; so we wanted to get feedback on what players think about some of the different gatherable types having different things that you would have to know and expect from them. So rocks are a good example of this, where you can see a rock but until you crack that thing open you don't know if it's full of stone, crystals, rubies, gold. So we wanted to try that out with some of our gatherables to have players have to open this thing up- and that's not to say that we players won't stumble on a nice load, or vein, or geode of gold, but most of the stuff that they would they would find to the world, unless they they look hard enough, would require them to crack that stone open.[3]Kory Rice
Certain low level gatherables will have a tiered progression into higher level crafting. So for example if I'm gathering... leaves of the blue petal flower to craft a pigment that's going to be used in the development of a tunic that I can wear at level one, then I may need to collect those in order to craft the pigments to craft a greater pigment that might be present in the in the crafting of a higher level item. So it's going to be a tiered progression so that materials have relevancy throughout the different levels of of crafting; and that's important from an economic stability standpoint. You need to have layered demand from a supply standpoint so that players who are interested in collecting and gathering those materials still are relevant when the later level items are crafted.[11]Steven Sharif

Profesiones de recolección

Profesiones de recolección in Ashes of Creation:

Progresión de las profesiones

Dentro de cada una de las tres vías de artesanía (Recolección, procesado y Elaboración) hay diferentes profesiones. Un personaje sólo puede dominar una de estas dos vías principales y hasta dos (2) profesiones dentro de esta clase de artesanía (sujeto a pruebas).[12][13][14][15]

When it comes to complete mastery, we're really identifying around two or three right now, but that's something that gets play tested- something gets iterated upon.[13]Steven Sharif
  • Un personaje podrá alcanzar una competencia de nivel 3 o 4 en las profesiones que no domine.[13][16]Steven Sharif
Players will have the opportunity to dabble in all of the professions at a very beginners level and then that gives them an understanding of what that profession feels like and then allows them to pinpoint the direction that they want to go in to master particular professions.[16]Steven Sharif
  • En función de las pruebas, se puede decidir limitar los certificados de dominio de una profesión a un valor máximo.[17][18]
Becoming a master Crafter or a master Processor or a master Gatherer should be a significant time investment and resource investment; and because of that it should also be something that when you achieve that status it's like people on the server know who you are.[19]Steven Sharif
  • El dominio de estas profesiones no se limita a fabricar un objeto. Conceden muchas cosas como titulos, acceso a objetos, rebajas y misiones. [20]
  • Previamente se decía que, con un esfuerzo considerable, un jugador podía dominar todas las profesiones dentro de una clase de artesanía. [21][22] Esto se cambió más tarde para que un jugador pudiera dominar algunas, pero no todas las profesiones dentro de esta clase de artesanía.[23][24] Esto se cambió para poder dominar hasta dos o tres profesiones dentro de una clase de artesanía que se domine (sujeto a pruebas).[13] La postura actual es poder dominar hasta dos profesiones.[12]

La progresión de artesanías dentro del árbol de habilidades, se basa en la experiencia (repetición de tareas) dentro de una rama, así como de la realización de ciertos hitos dentro de cada rama.[25]

  • Elegir una de estas vías específicas dentro del árbol de habilidades, da al jugador la oportunidad de especializarse en un área determinada. Esto fomenta la inter-dependencia del jugador, mejorando la experencia en la artesanía.[26]
When we reference not being masters of all that doesn't mean you're not a master within your own one of the three artisan types, which is crafter or gatherer, processor. You will be a master of one of those, you will not be master of the other two.[14]Steven Sharif

Artisan mastery

A character may only ever master one of the three parent artisan paths (Recolección, Procesado or Elaboración (Crafting)).[12][13][14][15]

  • A character will be able to achieve up to tier 3 or tier 4 proficiency in professions that are not mastered.[13][16]
Players will have the opportunity to dabble in all of the professions at a very beginners level and then that gives them an understanding of what that profession feels like and then allows them to pinpoint the direction that they want to go in to master particular professions.[16]Steven Sharif
  • Based on testing, it may be decided to limit profession mastery certificates to a capped value.[17][18]
Becoming a master Crafter or a master Processor or a master Gatherer should be a significant time investment and resource investment; and because of that it should also be something that when you achieve that status it's like people on the server know who you are.[19]Steven Sharif
  • Masteries aren’t just about making an item. They grant many things, including titles, access to items, bargains, and quests. [20]
  • Previously it was stated that with considerable effort a player can master all professions within a mastered parent artisan class.[21][22] This was later changed to a player being able to master some but not all professions within a mastered parent artisan class.[23][24] This was changed to being able to master up to two or three professions within a mastered parent artisan class (subject to testing).[13] The current stance is being able to master up to two professions.[12]
Q: What would be the daily activities for someone at level 50 with a maxed out artisan tree?
A: The daily activity might be something along the lines of, depending on what type of profession or processor you are, of interacting with fellow artisanship individuals to wheel and deal on supply and demand chains; orchestrating and participating and caravan roads that move materials across the world so that you can satisfy buy orders and/or commission requests. Participating in unique trades and/or dungeon experiences that have the opportunity to acquire unique crafting materials so that you can create the dragon's legendary sword and sell that potentially. Finding unique harvestable materials in remote parts of the world or engaging in treasure map finding for again unique materials and/or processing things. There's a whole host of different intents that are loops for the players to participate in that again are situationally relevant based on the world state.[27]Steven Sharif

Recursos

Gatherable mushrooms found in an underground cave.[4]

We want our players to have a reason to explore the wilderness, to travel with purpose, and much of that will be driven by our resource system. Transporting these goods might just be more difficult than gathering them. Our regional market system allows players to participate in creating pocket economies that will reinforce the stability of goods in particular regions.[28]

Gatherable resources (also known as raw materials and harvestables) occur in locations where you would expect them to be organically.[29]

  • Certain resources will only be gatherable for a limited time during specific story arcs.[30]
You want to take advantage of the limited time you have during the story arcs to get some of these rare resources for crafting things.[30]Jeremy Gess
  • The location the resource was found can affect the benefits, bonuses, and other characteristics of that resource.[31]
    • Some resources will be one-time gatherables, others will exist as clusters that will last until the vein is depleted.[32][33][29]
  • Resources will not expire or degrade over time.[38]
We don't want to create an environment I feel where you're having to micromanage each of the resources that are very vast in our game. We have 100 plus material system where you're having to play whack-a-mole with managing those things... I don't see the value in it.[38]Steven Sharif

Resource quality

Flanggler (Flower angler or Mimic flower).[41][42]

Recursos will have differing tiers of quality for the same resource type.[33] This is somewhat similar to Star Wars Galaxies.[43]

You will have an opportunity to proc certain qualities based on your progression in the Artisan tree. So if you are a gatherer; and as you advance in your gathering, you'll have a higher opportunity to collect better resources.[45]Steven Sharif

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In Alpha-1 testing there are 4 tiers of gatherable resources across all gathering professions:

Resource extractors

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Resource extractors are potential constructions that can collect resources over time.[46]

List of resources

Ubicación de los recursos

Alpha-1 mine shaft.[47]

Players will be able to move resources and set up shop in other areas to take advantage of the varied markets. With resources spawning dynamically, certain regions will naturally become important trading hubs for the transportation of goods throughout the world.[28]

El mapa de Verra no se generará de forma procedimental, pero los puntos de inicio de los recursos pueden ser diferentes en cada servidor.[48][49]

  • Algunos recursos serán recolectables una sola vez y volverán a aparecer de forma aleatoria en una localización diferente una vez recogidos.[32][33]
  • Otros recursos existirán en forma de grupos (también llamados vetas de recolección). Durarán hasta que se agote todo el recurso.[50][32][33][29]
    Like a large mine that's present and has a vein of mithril ore in it, or a herd of some type of animal that you can collect fur or wool from.[33]Steven Sharif
    • There will be moving resources such as herds of animals that are constantly moving around the world.[50][51]
    Herds are a source of certain types of wild gatherables but they're in animal form and they're animated; and they exist in a group of the golden fleece sheep that might only spawn very rarely in certain hillsides; and only during spring. And if you can find that vein so to speak of resource you can interact with the herd and you can gather from them.[50]Steven Sharif
    • Una vez que una de estas vetas de recolección se agota en un lugar, puede reaparecer en el mismo lugar o en otro, dependiendo del tipo de recurso.[33][29][51]
  • Los recursos reaparecen en función del tiempo de enfriamiento.[29]
  • Los recursos no estarán ligados al sistema de nodos.[29]
  • Algunos recursos únicos pueden ser monstruos enmascarados o tener monstruos que los defienden.[52]

Surveying

Surveying plays a key role in helping gatherers identify resources in particular locations through the use of surveying tools.[9][10]

Surveying is a way that players can check out an area for resources. Players can learn where resources are that are static and that grow back in the same location; but we'll also have resources and Ashes that can spawn anywhere, so surveying will help players locate those those resources. So if they're looking for something specific they can hunt them down. Surveying will also allow players to uncover hidden resources that players wouldn't be able to see with their with their naked eye. Another thing that a surveying would provide is some of the information that we're talking about before, like for instance if you survey- and inside of your survey area there's plants, you might learn what season that plant likes to grow in. You might learn whether it likes to be watered during the winter versus how it likes to be watered in the summer.[9]Kory Rice
  • Surveying can identify the types of resources that spawn statically within an area and also provides information about the seasons and locations they spawn in.[9]
  • Surveying can help uncover hidden resources that are not visible to the naked eye.[9]
  • Progresión de las profesiones unlocks higher level surveying tools that enable better identification of gatherable resources within a location.[9]
    • Unlocking surveying pylons allows the gatherer to adjust the shape and extend the area of their survey.[9]
You'd work with a surveying tool; and you set the surveying tool down, and that tool would have a specific area in which it's able to uncover and extract information about the resources that are in the area. As a starting out gatherer you might end up with one of the tools, but as you as you progress and become more proficient with using the tool you might be able to set up additional pylons and extend the area of your survey. That allows you to start making shapes and having more strategic areas that you're surveying. If you could connect multiple pylons to create a shape, maybe you could follow the twisting caverns of the cave. Maybe if you're out in the open like we are here you could just try and make yourself a nice widened shape to scan as much of the area as possible. So it'll be up to the player to be tricky with their surveying tool to try and get the most efficiency out of their survey.[9]Kory Rice

Land management

Harvesting an Oak Log in Alpha-2.[53]

As you draw resources from your surrounding area- what type of effect does that have on the land; and then also how effectively can you draw those resources without having such a deleterious effect on the land, which might impact future resource gathering for some period of time: And it makes relevant the movement of these players who are collecting these goods from the environment, that they actually cannot always just do so in one particular area, as the land management begins to degrade. So it actually encourages movement across the world to discover new areas that might not be as perturbed as the ones you're coming from. It's a very interesting idea. It's something that we're going to be prototyping in Alpha 2 and getting feedback on and testing.[10]Steven Sharif

Land management mechanics are present for gathering artisans.[54][10]

It could be could be positive or negative, or both simultaneously. So the land health value ties into the health of a specific ecosystem; and the ecosystem can scale with different segment sizes of the world, or the world itself: A biome, maybe a node, maybe the player's freehold. And the things that a player does in those areas will contribute to health in a positive or negative way. So doing something like rotating your crops might increase the health of the land because that's considered something good to do; and maybe apprehending or removing poachers that are over hunting a certain species could be helpful to the health of the land. Maybe the mayor puts out a request for players to try and get rid of invasive species that are plants- maybe they're overgrowing weed and it's stopping other valuable plants from growing.[54]Kory Rice
There's a particular reason for why that inventory system is intended to exist within Ashes; and part of that is from the aspect of everything in the world is gatherable and there is a land management system that exists behind those gatherable things. The land management system takes into account how players are interacting with the environment: how many of the resources they're withdrawing from the world; and that decreases the spawn rate within certain localities as those things go too high. So there can be a degree of economic warfare by sending players out into zones where you want to mitigate collection of resources. You send your players out there to take all those resources and then that diminishes the land management score of that particular zone.[56]Steven Sharif

Artisan gear

Artisan gear will boost artisans in their gathering, processing, or crafting professions.[57][58]

Gear for artisans are going to live alongside your adventuring gear. So you will currently- the approaches, and we'll test this but currently- the approach is you'll have artisanship oriented gear. This might be beneficial for your gathering; it might be beneficial for your processing, or crafting, or whatever it is- your profession. Essentially you will craft that gear, you will equip that gear, it'll live almost as a undergarment slot so to speak; and then you can activate that and it will show the appearance if you wish during the activation when you gain the benefit from the from the gear itself; and then could disappear afterwards and go back to your adventuring gear. That's the current approach. We're going to play with that a little bit. There's some discussion and disagreement on the team about how we do that, but our hopes are for Alpha two, we will have I think a couple of sets at least. We're demonstrating all of the artisanship from gathering to processing to crafting in limited fashion in Alpha 2 want to have that gear present to play with this approach.[57]

Gathering tools

La recolección requiere la creación y el uso de herramientas de recolección que permiten recolectar recursos.[62][7][8]

  • Las herramientas tendrán durabilidad y vida útil.[32][64]
    • La cantidad de usos de una herramienta de recolección aumenta a medida que el recolector se vuelve más competente en el árbol artesanal de recolección.[32]
    • Las herramientas pueden llegar a no poder repararse, por lo que será necesario volver a fabricarlas.[64]
  • Los artesanos no necesitarán recurrir a otros árboles para fabricar sus herramientas.[7]
Tools do advance within the artisan tree, so your ability to either gather, process or craft will require the equivalent tools necessary at that stage of crafting in order to accomplish the task at hand. So, you could not mine copper and mithril with the same tool.[8]Steven Sharif
  • Los desarrolladores están considerando la posibilidad de introducir herramientas de recolección que requieran dos jugadores, como sierras para dos personas que puedan talar árboles más grandes.[63]
Your progression within the profession will take account what tools you can use. There might even be some opportunity to do some gathering with other players that . Typically in other games that I play you usually do the gathering alone. You're venturing around alone; and we wanted to take a look at maybe having a friend to help you with a two person saw on a larger tree. Maybe there's some panning that you could do as opposed to just hitting with the pickaxe. So, we'll have other tools that are part of that progression path and other activities that players can do if they would like to gather together.[8]Kory Rice
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Las herramientas de recolección para minería, herboristería, tala y pesca están asociadas a un nivel de recurso.[63][62] Por ejemplo: Un hacha de nivel 2 podrá recolectar madera madera de nivel 1 y 2, y no superior.[65]

Herramientas rareza Nivel de recurso Precio en el vendedor Ubicación del vendedor
Común 1 10g Zona de inicio del Alfa-1
Poco común 1 - 2 100g Expedición (escenario 1) nodos
Raro 1 - 3 500g Campamento (escenario 2) nodos
Épico 1 - 4 2000g Aldea (escenario 3) nodos

Gathering tool tiers

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Gathering tools for Minería, Herboristería, Tala, and Pesca are associated with a resource tier.[63][62] For example: A tier 2 axe can gather tier 1 and 2 lumber and no higher.[65]

Tool rarity Resource tiers Vendor price Vendor location
Common 1 10g Zona de inicio del Alpha-1
Uncommon 1 - 2 100g Expedición (escenario 1) nodes
Rare 1 - 3 500g Campamento (escenario 2) nodes
Epic 1 - 4 2000g Aldea (escenario 3) nodes

List of gathering tools

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Item Icon Type Resource tiers Rarity Level requirement Source Cost
Axe AxeIcon.png Tool 1 Common 1 Vendor 10
Beginners Pole BeginnersPoleIcon.png Fishing pole 1 Common 1 Vendor 10
Copper Pickaxe CopperPickaxeIcon.png Pickaxe 1 Common 1 Vendor 10
Cultivator CultivatorIcon.png Tool 1 - 3 Rare 1 Vendor 500
Diamond Tipped Pickaxe DiamondTippedPickaxeIcon.png Pickaxe 1 - 4 Epic 1 Vendor 2,000
Intermediate Pole IntermediatePoleIcon.png Fishing pole 1 - 2 Uncommon 1 Vendor 100
Iron Chopper IronChopperIcon.png Tool 1 - 2 Uncommon 1 Vendor 100
Iron Pickaxe IronPickaxeIcon.png Pickaxe 1 - 2 Uncommon 1 Vendor 100
Shears Tool
Sickle Tool
Soil Knife SoilKnifeIcon.png Tool 1 Common 1 Vendor 10
Steel Pickaxe SteelPickaxeIcon.png Pickaxe 1 - 3 Rare 1 Vendor 500
Tiller 7a088b0d-ff65-40ad-9ce3-2d0e6eaa77ff-0.png Tool 1 - 2 Uncommon 1 Vendor, Quest rewards 100

Timeline

Las clases de artesanía (Recolección, Procesado, Elaboración (Crafting)) estarán disponible en su totalidad durante el Alpha-2 y las Betas.[66][67]

Crafting honestly will not come online in any sense of its true form until Alpha-2. Alpha-1 has essentially what are intended to be the core gameplay loop of crafting, meaning the collection of materials, the translation of those materials into processed goods, and the use of those processed goods into item acquisition. That's the core gameplay loop that is currently present in Alpha-1. But those are mostly facilitated piggy backing the merchant systems right now and not actually using the real crafting system; and that's because crafting hasn't been completed in a form that can be implemented in Alpha-1, but will be for Alpha-2. What's present in Alpha-1 doesn't even really scratch the surface for crafting.[67]Steven Sharif

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