Saqueo
In the group loot obviously there's a lot of functionality here that parties have the ability to customize. There can be loot master, there can be round-robin, there can be need/greed/pass that's applied on a per rarity basis depending on the party's choices.[1] – Steven Sharif
Ashes of Creation intends to use traditional loot rules, selected by the party or raid leader.[3][4][5]
- Group loot rules are defined on a per-rarity basis.[1]
- A majority of party members must vote to approve any changes to group loot allocation changes.[2]
- The developers are considering using a double-tap interaction to loot all containers within a close proximity radius.[6]
- There won't be auto-looting pets.[7]
- Free-for-all.[5]
- Whoever is first to loot gets the loot.[3]
- A master looter (or lootmaster) is a player designated by the party leader to decide how loot is distributed in a dungeon or raid party.[5]
- With round-robin looting, party members take turns looting.[5]
- This is a traditional need before greed system based on dice rolls.[5]
- Since there is very little gear binding in Ashes of Creation, it's left to the party to deal with players who excessively roll Need on loot.[8]
- Bidding system.[5]
- Intrepid are investigating a potential bidding system, which allows players to bid on items instead of rolling for them.[5]
Sumario
Loot tagging
Looting rights (also known as Loot tagging) is based on a blended tag and damage done system.[9][4]
- The first party to obtain a tag (on a mob or boss) will gain an approximately 5-10% edge over competing parties in terms of the total damage done when determining looting rights.[9][4]
- These numbers will be balanced based on testing.[9]
- At the end of the fight, the party with the highest damage done, including first tagging bonus, will be granted looting rights.[9][4]
- We have a blended approach of damage done and a tag benefit. So if you tag the boss first, or you tag the loot- whatever the loot target is first- you're gonna get a benefit in the damage overall determination. So if you need to have 51% of damage done in order to qualify your raid, or the plurality of damage done if there's even three or four raids, then tagging first might give you a five or ten percent edge. We'll play with that number- balance it based on testing, but generally that's our approach in competing loot rights[9] – Steven Sharif
- Q: If looting rights are based on a blended tag and damage done system, will there be any mechanics in place to ensure roles like tanks and healers have an equal shot even when they haven't dealt as much damage?
- A: That's the reason for the blended approach. The reason that we're doing a hybrid system between tag and damage done is for the purposes of those classes who may not be as DPS oriented as other classes. The tag system- all classes are going to have a sprinkling of immediate effects- of instantaneous casts and they can use that to tag a target, and that'll give them a modifier on the looting rights: So plus 10 or plus 15 will balance that, but it'll give them plus 10 to 15 on overall damage done if they tag the target and then their damage will make up the remainder of that percentage completion. So if I do 50 damage to a target but someone else has the tag I'm not going to be able to claim that looting right. They'll have done the other 50 plus 10 or 15.[10] – Steven Sharif
Master gatherers may have the ability to "spoil" a boss' loot.[11]
- If you want to be able to get those mats from the boss, they're just not going to drop for anybody. They will only drop for a master gatherer who is capable of extracting those resources from the creature itself... The reason why we say there's a lot of interdependencies between the crafters of the world and the raiders of the world and our PvPers of the world is because we don't want to house the capability to attain these things all within the adventuring class. We want there to be an influence necessary from the craftsmen's guild to come in to either come and participate and spoil the boss and gather the goods or something along those lines.[11] – Steven Sharif
Loot tables
Loot tables (drop tables) of world bosses or dungeon bosses have a small RNG chance of dropping gear (completed items).[13][14] Monsters drop hunting certificates, Artículos and crafting materials rather than gold.[15][16]
- There is a much higher chance that materials and unique recipes are dropped that can be used to craft items of equitable value.[13][17][18]
- There is a small RNG chance of looting rare and legendary items or crafting materials from mobs based on the level, status and type of mob. This also applies to harvesting resources with a gathering profession.[19]
- Crafted gear is the best gear in Ashes of Creation.[20]
- Legendary equipment is only dropped by Legendary world bosses.[21]
- Stats on dropped items will vary based on the rarity of the item.[22]
- Loot tables are disabled for player controlled monsters.[23]
- Experience debt decreases the drop rate percentages from monsters.[24]
- Loot tables will likely not be affected by weather conditions.[25] This was previously listed as a possible effect.[26]
Hunting certificates
Hunting certificates is a term that covers items, such as Pelts that house the value of a mob's death. These certificates are specific to an economic region.[27] These are intended as an alternative mechanic to acquire gold.[28][15][16]
- A wolf is not going to be carrying a sack of gold. It may instead drop "pelts" that can be traded for gold.[16]
- Hunting certificates will also drop on a character's death.[15]
- Hunting certificates can be traded with hunter NPCs within nodes.[15]
- The level of the node and the distance of the node from the drop will determine the value of the certificate. Certificates redeemed from distant economic regions via the caravan system will provide higher returns (4 to 5 times greater in some cases) than certificates collected from the same region.[27][15]
- The value of the certificates are also calculated (by the world manager algorithm) based on the volume of certificates being redeemed in each region.[27]
- Hunting certificates may also be used to pay housing taxes and citizen dues.[28]
- Hunting certificates can also be stored within node warehouses.[15]
- Hunting certificates are not intended as crafting materials.[28]
Players drop hunting certificates and other items upon death, based on their applicable death penalties.[29][30][31][15]
Resource quality
Recursos will have differing tiers of quality for the same resource type.[34] This is somewhat similar to Star Wars Galaxies.[35]
- Gatherers who are more advanced in their artisan tree will unlock higher level harvesting tools that have a greater chance of collecting higher quality resources or proccing a greater quantity.[34][36][37]
You will have an opportunity to proc certain qualities based on your progression in the Artisan tree. So if you are a gatherer; and as you advance in your gathering, you'll have a higher opportunity to collect better resources.[37] – Steven Sharif
In Alpha-1 testing there are 4 tiers of gatherable resources across all gathering professions:
Mount and pet drops
Monturas and pets are dropped by world bosses on a very rare basis.[38]
Temporary mounts
Temporary mounts that drop from bosses will age and eventually die.[39]
Caravan looting
Si una caravana se destruye (pasa a ser escombros) dejará caer una parte de las mercancías que transporta.[40][41][42] El resto de las mercancías de la caravana se pierden cuando la caravana es destruida.[43]
- The caravan becomes a wreckage upon destruction and that wreckage is an interfaceable item that players can come up to and they can receive certificates for a portion of the goods inside the caravan. Now the idea with that certificate is that it must be taken back to the point of origin, or at least a region within that point of origin. We'll see about that last part because there's a few things I want to test in the Alpha from a gameability standpoint. The reason why for this is because what might happen is you may have some type of collaboration within a guild to kind of game that system. Hey I'm gonna reach this caravan just to the border of the region and then we're all destroy it, collect the goods and take it to you know that region's warehouse; and have to skip out on the last half of the way. So it must successfully reach its destination before the goods can be considered a part of that region.[42] – Steven Sharif
- Cualquiera puede saquear los escombros de la caravana.[43]
- Los componentes de la caravana también pueden caer cuando la caravana se destruye. Estos componentes pueden recuperarse por el propietario de la caravana o por otros jugadores, en el caso de componentes de alta calidad.[44]
- Las caravanas dejan caer certificados de mercancías pesadas que se pueden canjear en el nodo de origen a cambio de una parte de las mercancías.[45][42]
- Q: What is the reason for requiring the destruction of a caravan by the attackers as opposed to the attackers gaining possession of the caravan?
- A: With caravans we really want to emphasize this idea of not necessarily stealing the vehicle, but being forced to achieve victory through destruction; and when you do you then have the logistical issue of how you're going to transport those goods on your own rather than servicing the transport of that by just hijacking.[46] – Steven Sharif
AoE looting
AoE (Area of effect) looting is not included in the looting mechanics at the time of writing. It may be added based on feedback.[47]
Crafted items
Crafted items (Crafted gear) is best-in-slot gear in Ashes of Creation.[20]
- Crafted gear in the game is the best gear... One thing that I'm not a fan of is that you develop a crafting system in a game and you've spent a lot of time making this from a material and resource perspective. All the tables that you can receive, all the connectivity in the economy and how crafting is associated with the game; and then you undermine the crafting entirely by presenting a separate route of gear acquisition that is on-par with the crafting efforts. So here you have these people who are acquiring all of the resources getting, all the recipes, leveling up their professions and then everything they make is less or equal to anything you could just have chosen the easier path of and gone down the questing and received the best gear. So what we do focus on is that crafters make the best shit. Excuse me, the best things.[20] – Steven Sharif
- Previously it was stated that crafted items will be on-par with boss dropped items.[14][48][49]
Crafters will be able to assign different skills/abilities and stats on gear.[50][51]
- Master crafters will be able to influence several (but not all) stats on their crafted items.[50][52]
- The rarity of the items will be commensurate with the effort required to gather, process and craft the items.[49]
- Stats on crafted items will vary based on the item's rarity.[22]
- That plays into our crafting system in and of itself. The idea is for those stats to be variables that can be kind of dictated based on the mastery level of the particular crafter; and the higher they become a master of those professions, whether it be for armor or for weapons or for accessories, they're going to have some agency and put their mark on essentially what items they're introducing into the economy.[22] – Steven Sharif
Crafters are able to influence what their crafted items will look like.[50][53]
- At the moment, harnessing corruption to warp items into demonic or decayed things is not on the cards.[54]
- A crafter's name is embedded in the items they craft.[55]
- We believe that every item that exists in the world should in some way reflect its creator. As such, there will be extreme versatility in our crafting system – giving crafters the ability to create unique items that represent their strengths and weaknesses.[56]
Muerte del personaje

We don't have deleveling, instead what we have is experience debt. Now the more experience debt you accrue, the greater the detriment to your character; not to the point where you can not get out of the debt. There will always be a way forward to remove your debt.[58] – Steven Sharif
Cuando un personaje muere se se desintegra en cenizas. Las cenizas contienen cualquier objeto cualquier objeto perdido por el jugador debido a las penalizaciones por muerte correspondientes.[59][29][30][31][15] Estos montones de ceniza son saqueables de forma inmediata por cualquier jugador.[29] El marcado de jugadores (flagging) no se activa al saquear.[60]
- Un no combatiente (jugador verde) que muere sufre las penalizaciones normales, incluyendo:[31]
- Deuda de experiencia (experiencia negativa).[61]
- Pérdida de durabilidad.[62][63][31]
- When players die and they take durability loss, our durability loss isn't like other games where it's a gold sink so to speak. It's a combination of both a gold sink and a material sink. So in a sense, even if you only have completed items, when you take that durability loss you are losing out on materials. It's just a debt to the materials that you are losing instead of the active loss of that material in your inventory. So now you are accruing a material debt if you want to repair and increase again the performance of those particular items that take that durability loss.[62] – Steven Sharif
- Se suelta un porcentaje de los objetos recolectables y materiales que se usan en la creación de otros objetos.[64][30][31]
- Los objetos destinados al consumo final no se pierden, como los objetos consumibles creador por las profesiones de cocina y alquimia.[64]
- También se dejan caer un porcentaje de los certificados que lleva el jugador.[15]
- Si un jugador muere, habrá un periodo de tiempo antes de que su mula desaparezca. Otros jugadores deberán matar a la mula de ese jugador para poder saquearla.[65]
- Si la mula de un jugador muere, su cadáver tendrá el mismo porcentaje de objetos que el jugador..[65][66]
- Un combatiente (jugador púrpura) que muere sufre estas mismas penalizaciones, pero al 50% que un no combatiente.[31]
- Un corrupto (jugador rojo) sufre penalizaciones cuatro veces superiores a las de un no combatiente, y tiene la posibilidad de soltar cualquier objeto que lleve consigo/equipado en función de su puntuación de corrupción actual.Esto incluye:[67][68] This includes:[68][31]
- Any amount of corruption allows a player to drop equipped gear upon death. The higher the corruption the greater the chances.[70] – Steven Sharif
- Estos objetos pueden ser saqueados por otros jugadores.[71]
- Los jugadores corruptos reaparecen en lugares aleatorios en las proximidades de su muerte, no en los puntos de reaparición habituales.[72]
- Los jugadores no corruptos siempre reaparecen en el punto de reaparición activo más cercano (a su muerte).[73]
- Las penaliazciones por corrupción se acumulan a medida que se gana corrupción (no sólo al morir).[74]
- La deuda de experiencia escalará aproximadamente al 2 o 3 por ciento de la XP total para un jugador de nivel máximo. Estas cifras están sujetas a cambios en función de las pruebas.[75]
- Las penalizaciones por muerte (en su mayoría) no se aplican al PvP basado en objetivos.[76][77][78]
- There will not be death penalties applied to event-based deaths. The penalties are in the outcome of the event. So your number of deaths is likely going to impact your ability to win that particular event and that's going to be the penalty. This is it to encourage players to opt in to the events right because the more participation we have the more fun it can be; and we understand that the community at large- there's already a risk versus reward component to these events. We don't need to stack on additional risk versus reward to inhibit kind of- to increase the barrier to entry for players who may not be as interested.[78] – Steven Sharif
- La degradación de equipo se aplica al morir durante el PvP de caravanas.[76][77]
La muerte por caída es posible.[80]
- El daño por caída que ocurra mientras se está montado se aplicará primero a la montura; y si la montura muere como resultado, entonces el daño restante puede pasar al jugador, pero esto se determinará en función de las pruebas.[80]
La muerte por ahogamiento es posible.[81][82]
- Los jugadores que se ahoguen resurgirán en la orilla.[81]
Si un jugador muere habrá un periodo de tiempo antes de que su mula desaparezca. Otros jugadores deberán matar la mula de ese jugador para poder saquearla.[65]
- Si la mula de un jugador muere su cadáver tendrá el mismo porcentaje de objetos de botín que el jugador.[65][66]
Los jugadores no pierden oro al morir, independientemente de su nivel de corrupción.[83]
- At the moment, the plan is for players to not lose gold upon death, no matter their corruption level.[83] – Cody Peterson
Full loot
There will not be a full loot (full drop) system in Ashes of Creation.[84]
There will not be a full drop and the reason for that is because you know our intention when it comes to progression within the world is we want it to be meaningful and you know take some investment on behalf of the player; and if even if from a design standpoint we're like yeah but they have to choose to go to the area; we don't want a choice that a player can make where they delete their character so to speak.[84] – Steven Sharif
Currency

Money will play a big part in the in-game. However, with that being said, there are organizational specific currencies that can't be traded. So there is like a general gold that will be very important end-game, but then there's also your progression within certain religions, societies, or nodes will also have... there will be progression-based currencies as well.[15] – Steven Sharif
The general in-game currency is referred to as gold.[15][16]
- There are also specific progression-based currencies that cannot be traded.[15]
- Religiones.[15]
- Organizaciones sociales.[15]
- Nodos.[15]
- Tavern games (potentially).[86]
- Monsters don't drop gold, they instead drop hunting certificates.[15]
- Game currency does not have weight.[87]
- There is no cap on how much currency a player can hold.[88]
Players do not lose gold upon death, no matter their corruption level.[83]
Item rendering
Items that are dragged out of a player's inventory are destroyed.[89]
- Allowing player-dropped items (such as Equipo and Currency) to exist in the world is likely not going to be allowed.[89][90]
Ver además
Referencias
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